The extra aircraft, range and capabilities afforded by the airwing would allow longer range combat air patrols, the AEE would allow far earlier detection of raids and interception west of the Falklands. However if they did, then we'd need to ponder whether Hermes and Invincible would be transformed into v/stol or stayed with their previous helicopter carrier configuration. Petty-Major, RNVR), HMS Juliet (Lt. L.B. Island nation that operates a just in time supply chain for just about everything. The Phantom for starters would have been providing a long distance outer screen CAP supported by the Gannets. Lalande, L.B. D.S. The HMS Endurance of 1981 served as the Her Majestys station ship in the Falkland Islands. From the Vanguard-class ballistic submarine to the formidable HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier, our equipment is among the best in the world. From Malta departed the bombardment / cover force which was made up of the light cruisers HMS Aurora (Commodore W.G. Finally, During its last tour of duty, the aircraft complement of the. The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. Kingscote, RNR) and the attack transports USS Almaack (T/Capt. Dempo, They also tried Bulwark and pretty much the same answer. Lacon, DSC, RN) departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMF A1 and relieve HMS Achates, HMS Antelope, HMS Amazon and HMS Wivern. blakes 6 inch gun used in ngs role would have been invaluable, plus she had an armoured hull. His interests include strategy, grand strategy in the Middle East and the Asia Pacific, international relations and politics, maritime strategy, counter-terrorism, counter-insurgency warfare, and maritime policy. Returned 20 Apr 1978. Retaining HMS Ark Royal,anAudaciousclass aircraft carrier,would have been beneficial in the Falklands War and perhaps even prevented it. Also on 5 November, the corvettes HMS Spiraea (Lt.Cdr. Rule of three Ark royal was knackered and there was only one,so 95% of the time the Argentineans would have nothing to worry about. The second HMS Rhyl was marked F129. A.W. The Gannet is actually the real game-changer here. Around 2230A/5, the monitor HMS Roberts (Capt. 9228 Bay Avenue, North Beach, Md, In the morning of 5 November, HrMs Isaac Sweers parted company with the convoy to join ' Force H '. Nieuw Zeeland, P.C. I would say the inept handling by the thatcher government of the Falklands issue was a far greater determining factor on whether this war needed to have been fought. This is very much a what if question, that has possibly been posed by other scholars. Surtees, RNR), HMS Inchmarnock (T/Lt. But the Task Force still had gaping bind spots. On assembly the convoy was escorted by the escort carrier HMS Avenger (Cdr. Pugsley, DSO, RN), HMS Nubian (Cdr. Recovery was via emergency straps found storage. Mark Twain, Bockett-Pugh, DSO, RN) and HMS Wishart (Cdr. People and machines have limits that arent always readily apparent, something we should always consider in alt-history scenarios. L. Lichodziejewski, ORP), HMS Lamerton (Lt.Cdr. G.C.P. Manchester Port, War is about making the most of what you have at theRead more . Submit events/comments/updates for this vessel. All five minesweepers were involved in clearing two minefields off Port Stanley. A 500lb bomb dropped by a Skyhawk destroyed the wheelhouse and stern section of the boat, killing six crew. So nothing really changes then, with wholesale disposal of assets only to discover they are needed just a few years later. Of course, the loss of the Falklands led to the fall of the junta anyway, so it was really Britains liberation of the islands that paved the way for democracy to return to Argentina. R.R. I could be wrong, but I thought John Nott was Minister for Defence at the time. Wilkinson, RN) and the corvette HMS Samphire (with her repairs completed) departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMS A1. The message to the desperate Argentina government seemed clear. Sobo (British, 5353 GRT, built 1937), Royal Navy personnel may come from all walks of life, but they are united by one thing: a commitment to protecting our nations interests, no matter what. Duchess of Bedford, T.B. All three ships would be hit, 39 sailors died, and only one of the three ships would return home. A final bombardment was then carried out and also aircraft from North African air bases carried out attacks. Nieuw Zeeland (British, 11069 GRT, built 1928), WebDeparted HMNB Portsmouth for 7.5 month group deployment (TG 317.6) to Australia and Far East, escorting HMS Tiger and in company with RFA Grey Rover, RFA Regent, RFA Tarbatness and RFA Tidepool. From convoy KMS A1 the following ships were assigned to ' A Sector '; City of Worcester, Ennerdale, Glenfinlas, Jean Jadot, Lochmonar, Ocean Rider, Ocean Volga, Sobo, Stanhill, Tiba and Urlana. Bulwark and either Tiger or Blake, not sure which, where up the trot at Guz. AR's Phantoms were certainly not equal to the dozens of Tomcats and Hornets the US carriers were cutting about with at the time but they were still solid aircraft, probably easily superior to the Argentine Daggers, Mirages and Skyhawks though numbers would be an issue, albeit one massively offset by each F-4 carrying 4 Skyflash SARH missiles plus 4 Sidewinders compared to the mere 2 Sidewinders of the Sea Harriers. Otranto, The Labour government sent several destroyers/frigates to the area to show their resolve and the junta did nothing. We empower all our people, by respecting and valuing what makes them different. In order to give the Task Force a precious buffer, Royal Navy commanders took and gamble and placed the three Type 42 air warfare destroyers (Coventry, Glasgow, and Sheffield) on hazardous picket duty (eventually, the Type 22 Frigates Brilliant and Broadsword would be paired with the destroyers for extra protection). Hopecrown (British, 5180 GRT, built 1937), KMS O1 then proceeded to the westwards so as to pass the Straits of Gibraltar later. Group IX; LST's HMS Misoa (T/Lt. Find out more about them here. I think you will find that the ship you saw in Chatham Dockyard was in fact the Maintenance Ship HMS Triumph ( Ex Aircraft Carrier ). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------. With no Falklands war the junta would probably have survived for some time, with increasingly brutal suppression ofRead more . Temple, DSC, RN). HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. As despatch vessels, carrying mail between the Task Force and Ascension Island. Therefore its likely that it would have never have crossed the Airforce mind to deploy theirs on ships. Ark Royal was .unreliable despite being not particularly old so the danger of system.failure would be high. The forces that were still at sea were then dispersed. Questo sito Web utilizza i cookie per migliorare la tua esperienza. They were escorted by the sloop HMS Stork and the corvettes HMS Pentstemon and HMS Samphire. Ocean Viceroy (British, 7174 GRT, built 1942), Andrew, RN), HMS Clacton (A/Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) Physical and mental fitness are at the heart of Royal Navy life. Sobieski, H.J. Partington, RD, RNR) departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMF A1. G.D. Belben, DSC, AM, RN) and the destroyers HMS Laforey (Capt. R.E. J. Byron, DSC, RNR), HMS Rhododendron (Lt.Cdr. Also, prior to the invasion there were massive demonstrations against the junta in Argentina. By the time she was paid off in 79 she was in a horrendous state. Maintaining a state of readiness to protect the interests of Britain and our allies. Tiba (Dutch, 5239 GRT, built 1942), This range extension might even allowed for attacks on airfields in Argentina itself (a scheme that was actually considered for land-based RAF Buccaneers from Ascension). This is the place for you, Everyones experience is unique, but find out what lifes been like for others here, Everything you need to know about joining the Royal Navy, in one place, instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser, Defence review will forge a growing Navy with expanding horizons. HMS Hermes, was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military efforts during the Falklands War. The harrier with the ski jump gave the Royal Navy a critical edge. A memorial to mark the 40th anniversary of the deadly attack on a Royal Navy destroyer during the Falklands War has been unveiled. Withdrawing the Ark in 79 would only have further convinced them of our North Atlantic/NATO centric pivot. Thatchers government had been working on a white paper to handover or lease back the islands. Dont knowRead more . In 1982, Plymouth was one of the first Royal Navy ships to arrive in the South Atlantic during the Falklands War. A.T.G.C. Indeed. Ede, DSO, RN), HMS Stornoway (T/A/Lt.Cdr. There has been a lot of bagging of the invincible class, and the harriers, by many, and lamenting about the glory days of the big carriers is an easy thing to do. William Floyd, White, RN), HMS Stork (Cdr. Our days of being able to project influence through our military are over. Lochmonar (British, 9412 GRT, built 1924), By 1978 Ark was incapable of making distilled water , needed for boilers and catapult launches , such were the state of her evaporators, she required the three RFAs that accompanied her to go alongside and RAS distilled water. As for RAF Harriers, maybe, maybe not. I remember the look sees on Bulwark and Tiger and Blake. W.Y. However, as a military aviator I completely sympathize with his annoyance with bad operations orders, micromanagement, wondering what higher ups are thinking and if they have any idea of your role or capabilities, withholding of information by those above, poor communication from your superiors and a lack of intelligence information. Richardson, DSO, DSC, RN) joined the convoy coming from the Azores. J. Jackson, RNR) and HMS Tay (Lt.Cdr. The fast convoy, KMF O1, would, after passing through the Straits of Gibraltar make rendezvous with the slow convoy, KMS O1 in position 3626'N, 0115'W. They parted company with convoy KMS 1A on 8 November. Northey, DSC, RN). J.S. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Clarke, RN, flying the flag of Rear-Admiral C.H.J. It's certainly an interesting hypothetical and it isn't as clear-cut as you might think. Charles H. Cramp, She was the fifth ship to proudly bear the name of the city and her loss sent shockwaves through Wilson scrapped the newer ship. Repotting Lady Slipper Orchids, Harrier possibly would have given them a new lease of life but these would come at the expense of the F-4s and Buccs - which were the more potent aircraft. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Mandatory Fun, https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hms-eagle-in-the-falklands.447558/. The Harriers would provide local air defence due it short legs. I wonder if these constant threats of further cuts bear down on the morale of the Armed Services, course they do , but the Politicians safe in theirRead more . Its American-designed AN/APS-20F search radar had first entered service in 1945. Orbita, Ettrick, McNair, MBE, RNVR), HMS Inchcolm (Skr. J.B.G. J.H. Around 0800A/5, the minesweepers HMS Algerine (Lt.Cdr. Convoy KMS A 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 2345A/5; it was made up of the transports; J.D.L. Ark Royal would have been a great asset in 82,with the benefit of hindsight. Disagree Steve. However, another interesting fact was that breaking up of Ark Royal took until 1983. This convoy was assembled off Oversay on 23 October 1942. As for Atlantic Conveyor, I can't see how this changes things enough so that she isn't sent. HMS Spey by that time had departed with the ships 24 landing craft in which the ships troops had embarked. Harper, RNR), HMS Hoy (T/Lt. Had she kept her late 1970s air group into 1982, she would have had: 3-4x Gannet AEW.3s (Flight from 849 Squadron). It would certainly render the need.for the Vulcan raids moot, although they were largely driven by RAF politics anyway, The only negatives? Marnix van St. Aldegonde, The Ark was a nightmare to keep operational her whole career. [1] For a list of naval forces from Argentina, see Argentine naval forces in the Falklands War. Gannets would have made a difference, especially early in the air war. Leadership is an essential requirement at all levels throughout the Royal Navy. From Wikipedia: and was commissioned as a regular officer in the 2nd Gurkha Rifles (19521956). However, a new government reexamined the case and found that only shore-based aircraft was not sufficient to provide the defence needs of our global interests which were East of the Suez. a large combat aiar patrol would have certainly have given the opportunity to stop incoming attacks in san carlos where antelope and ardent were lost, possibly coventry would have had air protection which may not have seen her lost. It is one of those what-if scenarios that can be debated, would it have stopped the war? Purse, DSC, RN), HMS Wheatland (Lt.Cdr. Unless this about lessons we shouldnt forget this is just another counter factual. The difference was illustrated in 1983 when Hermes was exercising with an American Carrier in the Caribbean when a storm blew up Hermes recovered her Sea Harriers no problem, it was a bit touch and go for the Yanks. A.W. Gibbs, DSO and Bar, RN). The damaged ship anchored off Algiers around 1030A/11 being towed there by HMS Wishart and HMS St. Day. Or have a friend or loved one who is? They were manned by Royal Naval personnel, mainly from 1st MCM Squadron based at Rosyth. B.J. Indeed AV, it was Callahans decision to withdraw the SSN patrol from the South Atlantic in 1977 that really got the Argentines convinced we had lost interest in our South Atlantic territories. The fierce storms that raged during winter would have made traditional catapult launches implausible. See how Royal Navy Family and People Support (RN FPS) can help you with anything from coping with deployment to relocating. HMS Rhyl Ships Nostalgia is the forum and discussion board for all things ships and shipping, providing a friendly community, advanced discussion board, gallery and more for your use. Pound, DSC, RN) and HMS Whaddon (Lt.Cdr. But it is haunting to know that this is the last spot that anyone saw Foxtrot 4. Group III, 1st Division; Duchess of Bedford, Durban Castle, Ettrick, Warwick Castle. Batory, Grace, DSC, RD, RNR), gunboat HMS Aphis ( Lt.Cdr. WebHMS Rhyl was a Rothesay or Type 12I class anti-submarine frigate of the British Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23 February 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. For ' R ' beach J.W. Generations of our political leaders are quite disgraceful. Sampson, RNVR), HMS Rhyl (Cdr. Walt Whitman, LCU F4 was one of four landing craft assigned to HMS Fearless with 4 Assault Squadron Royal Marines, designed to land commandos and their kit ashore which they did from the moment the campaign to re-take the Falklands began with the landings at San Carlos on May 21. They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Tynwald, escort destroyers HMS Cowdray, HMS Zetland, sloop HMS Enchantress, minesweepers HMS Algerine, HMS Hussar, HMS Speedwell, corvettes HMS Pentstemon, HMS Samphire, MS trawlers HMS Cava, HMS Othello and the motor launches HMS ML 273 and HMS ML 295. Not only the AEW Gannet would have make a diference, the Ark Royal Radar itsel was far more capable for detecting at long range that any other ship at the Falkands. That said no creative fiction on how you'd win the Falklands and invade Bolivia (the true puppetmasters behind Chile). Brooke, DSO, DSC and Bar, RN). Comments may automatically be held for moderation by our team, they will be approved as soon as possible in accordance with our. Renny, DSC, RNR), HMS Vetch (T/A/Lt.Cdr. Group VI, 1st division; Derbyshire, Letitia, Mooltan and Nieuw Zeeland. The wreck remains unlocated to this day. Obviously, Galtieri and his gang launched the invasion to distract attention from their domestic problems, and as I said before, in the expectation that Britain lacked the will to do anything militarily, irrespective of what forcesRead more . Maron, But it is haunting to know that this is the last spot that anyone saw Foxtrot 4, said Lieutenant Colonel Thurstan. Nuclear submarines lurking off the Argentine coast could provide a 45 minute alert of an incoming raid. The Buccaneer's buddy-tanking capability could also have been used to keep Phantoms on CAP longer. Can you expand on this? Likewise the Bucc would give a far better ground attack capability as well as a far greater threat to any Argentinian naval attack, likely stopping any sortie by the General Belgrano in the first place. Scary times where had walking around on them. Around 0800A/3, the destroyer HMS Marne (Lt.Cdr. N.A.F. But in the Royal Marines and Royal Navys Amphibious Warfare community, the loss of the 30-metre-long craft, with four Marines and two Sailors, resonates to this day. Stewart, RNR) and the minesweepers HMS Acute (Lt.Cdr. The picket warships would only have 15-20 minutes warning (and due to technical glitches and human errors, sometimes no warning at all). William M. Floyd (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), Trentham, RN), minesweepers HMS Brixham, HMS Bude, HMS Clacton, HMS Felixtowe, HMS Polruan (Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) The Royal Navy was in a middle of another round of defence cuts which would have meant some of the capital ships including HMS Invincible would have been sold. Learn about the different types of accommodation available through the Royal Navy and find an option that meets your needs. Firth, RNVR), HMS Marigold (Lt. J.A.S. Probably they've end up being converted as Ark Royal wouldn't last forever and there was no appetite for a replacement. Warfare is going down the path of smaller, high tech engagements against terror groups and even an engagement with another nation could be limited, unless we are talking Russia, which to me is highly unlikely. Having, in my opinion, one of the best naval strike aircraft of the period available ends up with the runway put out of commission far faster and far more permanently than the Black Buck raids would ever accomplish. S.E. Around noon on 4 November 1942, the convoy was split up into two sections KMF A1 and KMF O1. W.R.K. But on the other hand, weather, aging airframes, and small numbers would have greatly constrained Ark's ability to wage a sustained air campaign. Recorder, Cant recall anyone at the time suggesting it should have remained in-service: surely the RN had its hands full in trying to ensure a speedy delivery of the Invincible class? The cruisers and fleet destroyers then proceeded to Lampedusa. C.R. July, 1979. Ark's Gannets had an endurance of five hours. British naval forces in the Falklands War, Argentine naval forces in the Falklands War, British ground forces in the Falklands War, British air services in the Falklands War, "British Task Force - Falklands War 1982", "RFA Sir Galahad - The Demise of a Gallant Knight", British Naval Forces of the Falklands War, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_naval_forces_in_the_Falklands_War&oldid=1129419299, Articles with dead external links from July 2020, Articles with permanently dead external links, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. Batory (Polish, 14287 GRT, built 1936), Mooltan (British, 20952 GRT, built 1923), Buccaneers would almost certainly have followed and would likely have sunk the carrier and her A-4Q Skyhawks, wiping out nearly 15% of the entire Argentine Skyhawk force in a single blow. 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